Well, in that case. If you’re really clean, like clean enough to do ass to mouth, you could try some ass to pussy sex. It’s different and feels really good too.
I wouldn’t recommend that, as it’s not only fecal matter that carries germs. The walls of the rectum are covered with mucus-secreting cells, and it’s that mucus where a lot of the (healthy and necessary) microbes live. While they are necessary for digestion, you still don’t want them in your vagina.
They’re body own bacteria. They don’t harm the host. If they did then at least in one of the (at least) 20 times we did it, she must have had some problem.
Plus ATM puts those in the mouth and the digestive system. Where they also don’t belong. She did that a lot more. Will easily be over 100 times. Never any issue. A lot of coïnsidence, don’t you think ?
Not every bacterium that’s healthy and useful in one part of your body is healthy and useful in every other. If you and your wife never had problems, that’s great, but that doesn’t mean it’ll be like that for everyone.
Some women will get UTIs after plain old basic vaginal sex every time. Others never have issues. But going from ass to vagina is almost always a bad idea.
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I’ve never done ass to vagina. It never really appealed to me although one of my friends prefers it to ass to mouth. Each to their own I guess
E. coli bacteria is the culprit that causes most UTI and bladder infections. This common bacteria is found in the colon and digestive system where it causes no physical harm. However, when E. coli finds its way to the female urethra (the technical term is “pee hole”), it can result in wickedly painful UTI and/or bladder infections.
For a variety of reasons, including undiagnosed auto-immune disorders, my wife was prone to frequent UTI’s. This was prior to our anal only sex life. Several years ago while both of us were quite drunk on tequila, we engaged in anal and vaginal penetration which resulted in her contracting a UTI. There was no fecal matter present. This was the first and last time we ever engaged in the practice.
For whatever reason, men are far less likely to contract UTI’s during penetrative anal sex. It seems like a selfish act to put your partner at risk simply because you want to dip your cock from her ass to her pussy.
Ass to pussy sex is depicted in porn but that doesn’t mean it’s safe to do so. While there’s risk of infection in every sexual act, it increases exponentially when one transfers the unique bacteria in the colon to the urethra and vagina.
To deny this risk exists is to deny the science involved. The association of UTI’s, bladder infections, and bacterial vaginosis to anal-to-vaginal penetration has been recognized for decades. Denying this connection doesn’t lessen the risk. The ONE time we engaged in anal to vaginal penetration resulted in a UTI. That’s enough data for me and my wife to confirm the connection.
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Thank you @Colt1911 Heading towards 2 years AO. I’ve never done ass to vagina and having read this, I’m glad I didn’t. I remember reading it was a no-no but not in that much detail. One of the ladies in our group does ass to vagina. I’m sure it will really put her in the mood later lol
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There is an element of risk in everything we do. Risk ranges from the sublime to the obvious. Information is key to managing risk.
You and your group (sure wish I was part of a similar group in the 70’s before I met my wife!) manage risk through testing… an effective strategy and reasonable approach.
It appears some people are born with a genetic resistance to E. Coli bacteria, explaining why some do not contract UTI’s after engaging in anal to vaginal penetration. There’s two ways to identify if you possess this gene… engage in anal to vaginal penetration and see if the woman develops an infection OR pay for expensive genetic testing to determine if the woman possesses this gene.
We unintentionally used the first method, which confirmed Mrs Colt does not possess the gene to prevent UTI’s. We were drunk and I hadn’t penetrated her pussy for years because we truly are anal only. I guess the UTI was natures way of reminding us to stick with what works for us
For those who insist ass to pussy is safe and free of risk, the article below explains why some (not all) women may be less prone to infection by going from back to front. The challenge is finding out if you’re resistant to infection.
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My wife had UTI problems all the time when she still did vaginal sex. My ex too, at least once a month she had some (minor) trouble with her pussy.
Since we went anal only, she never ever had an UTI, not even with multiple ass to pussy sessions we did.
I wonder, has anyone of you undergone a colonoscopy ? Where the put a camera up your ass and film the inside of your bowels ? The wall is super smooth. Nothing sticks to it.
And the bacteria in the vagina actually cause more problems than the bacteria in the bowels. Ever experienced the vaginal bacteria gone bad ? The smell was the worst I’ve ever experienced. Amonia meets rotting flesh kind of smell. Only cure was to rince her vaginal cavity for weeks untill all those bad bacteria were gone and hooe she would regrow them in a normal way. Vaginal fluids are acidic. Meant to kill as much as possible that gets in.
So anal bacteria will not stand a change in a healty vagina.
I spoke with my friend who does ass to vagina from time to time. When she was having her periodic STI check, the doctor advised her that there is a risk of passing anal bacteria to the vagina with the potential of causing bacterial vaginosis. Granted if the immune system is in good shape, it should not cause many problems but its a risk she will not be taking in the future. She declared herself AO!
Do you have a link to medical information that says it’s impossible to get a UTI or bacterial vaginosis when switching from ass to pussy? If not, I’d advise those new to anal sex to avoid the practice. It might discourage someone from engaging in anal. That’s antithetical to the purpose of our group.
Sorry @Colt1911 but I think this is funny. I am sure I can just as easily find evidence that having anal sex is medically not a good idea. I am sure there are doctors who are totally opposed to it.
so should we then put a disclaimer on every post, saying “do so at own risk and inform yourself please”
I assume people do Inform themselves if they engage in alternative forms of sexual contact.
Sorry, but I must strongly disagree with ass-to-pussy (unless penis is completely cleaned and probably with a condom as well unless a long period of time has passed).
Just because a bacterium exists seemingly harmlessly in one system in the body does not mean it is safe to introduce it into a different system in the body. The body has many different systems – the passage of microbes between them can be dangerous.
Also, while you are correct that ATM puts the bacteria into the mouth and thus digestive system, there are extremely harsh conditions there that will kill most bacteria that are not supposed to be there. Just the same, IMHO opinion, while ATM may be enjoyable, I do not consider it to be safe and I would never “do that to” my wife (even if that is what she wanted) for safety reasons. (It is extremely common for humans to want to do things that are not good for them.)
The idea that just because something was done 20 times without a problem does not mean that the activity is safe for that individual. The 21st time could result in a hospital stay.
Also, every person’s body is different, with different degrees of balance (or not) within and between the systems. With ass-to-pussy, there are people who will get a UTI infection every single time. And there are others that may never get such an infection even after 1000 times.
I am concerned that suggesting that there is no risk when doing ass-to-pussy will give inexperienced or younger members the idea that there is little or no risk.
We may simply have to agree to disagree about this subject, but please reconsider and take into account how such claims of little or no risk may affect young or new people who don’t know any different.
Thank you.
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To expand upon what Colt1911 has said – all of which I agree with – it should be mentioned that UTIs are NOT limited to the urethra and bladder. A UTI can get up into the kidneys.
Speaking from my wife’s experience with kidney-UTIs, having a bacterial infection in the kidneys is miserable. What can happen – and it happened to her – is that in the kidney, the bacterial infection can get coated with a sort of biological slime which most antibiotics cannot penetrate. In my wife’s case, she had to take multiple antibiotics for SEVERAL YEARS to CONTROL (but not totally eliminate) the infection. This can permanently damage the kidneys, as well as other body systems, especially in the digestive tract, as well as create an environment where bacterial resistance to the antibiotic(s) can develop.
My wife’s experience with kidney-UTIs was prior to our doing anal activities, thus anal was not a “direct” cause. But as any doctor will tell a woman, just “wiping the wrong direction” can start up a nasty UTI.
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There are two major falacies in what you (Backdoorlover) have said in this post:
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The walls of the colon may be “super smooth”, but that has nothing to do with bacteria. There are MILLIONS of bacteria living there (probably per square inch). Your toilet seat is surely also “super smooth”, but certainly you don’t think that means it is bacteria-free? And it is commonly stated that that the “super smooth” surface of your smart phone is covered with many more bacteria than your toilet seat! (What a lovely thought.)
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That bad smell you describe from a “vaginal bacteria gone bad” is NOT normal vaginal bacteria. That is a UTI or similar. A UTI is not normal and is not normal vaginal bacteria – it is often yeasts, but also can just as easily be other not-normal-in-the-vagina bacteria. Bacteria do not “go bad” like rotten fruit has gone bad. Appropriate bacteria don’t change into inappropriate bacteria. But what does happen is that some inappropriate bacteria has somehow gotten into that part of the body – which can and does happen extremely easily to millions of women every year. (Buying stock in a company that makes UTI medications would probably be an excellent investment decision.) According to Google’s AI search results, worldwide, approximately 400 MILLION women get UTIs each year (some of them more than once in a year, some of them many times in a year). And I have every reason to think that quantity is grossly under-reported.
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By the way. Those bacteria gone bad had nothing to do with anal. We didn’t do anal. It was simply myb ex’ body who caused UTI’s randomly, all her life.
Even so, this is going way out of hand. We have several topics about ATM, have you seen anyone put in a disclaimer “can cause illness” ?
Or even more, did you ever read a story that a woman got ill from doing ass to mouth ? I’ve been on these forums for some years, never read anything like that.
Anyway, last time I did ass to pussy was the night I’ve asked her to marry me. I very specific switched from her asshole to her pussy and back, to make my proposal more memorable. And meanwhile made a deal with myself it was the absolute last time I’d penetrated her pussy.
My wife - as so many women - has a history of getting UTI’s when she was with her ex. They never ever did ATM or ATP sex. Just vaginal and anal. In the 4 years she’s with me, not one UTI happened. And we are doing ATM from very early into or anal only adventure. Ass to pussy was also very common for me to do, when she had used an anal douche, prior to ass to mouth sessions. Never any issue.
Using an anal douche to rince the rectum is, of course, is a minimal requirement if ass to mouth and ass to pussy is planned. At least it is to me. She also does ass to mouth without using the douche, but that’s up to her. I wouldn’t ask her to do it under those conditions.
So please, educate. Don’t just use scare tactics. If you read my “Journey in to ass to mouth” topic, you’ll see the mention of using an anal douche is common in that topic.
Be wise, stay safe, enjoy
What @AnalLover stated is medical fact, not anecdotal evidence of what works for one person.
Body chemistries and immune systems are different, which is why some women are more or less prone to infection than others.
Texting and driving is a growing issue in the U.S. It will soon surpass drunk and impaired driving as the leading cause of death in motor vehicle accidents.
So what does this have to do with the topic at hand? Drivers can get away with texting a driving until they don’t. My favorite story is a construction worker was posting to Facebook while driving. He ran a stop sign and T-boned a car in the intersection, instantly killing a pregnant mother and her three young children.
Just because your woman hasn’t experienced an infection from the ill advised practice of ass to pussy sex doesn’t mean other women won’t or already have. What we do in our own bedrooms is our business and you are free to engage in as much risky behavior as your little heart desires. However, offering advice to others that is contrary to medical science is irresponsible, especially for a moderator of the preeminent anal forum on the internet.
My two cents. You do you the way you want to but please keep the advice for novices based on sound medical science and advice.
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I work in healthcare- ass to mouth and ass to pussy are very risky behaviours. One can get lucky and not be made sick. Repeatedgy engaging in risky behaviours increases the chances of getting sick.
Knowing that there is a risk and choosing to take that risk is fine. THats informed consent.
I have personally known people who have gotten sick due to both these practices, especially ass to pussy. It’s basic biology and chemistry at play here.
Is it possible some people have an increased resistance? Yes it’s possible and if it’s working out that way for some folks - great. However, it is still a risky activity and no one should minimize or deny that there is a risk.
Because of the knowledge we have, and having been involved in treating the infections others have had, my wife and I never do ATM or ATP. We also don’t judge people who do it. I have also worked in sex positive healthcare settings and physicians have frank conversations with people who have absolutely asked abt ATM mostly, physicians have explained similar to what was stated above abt e-coli and the risks and then left it to the individual to make the choice abt what they would do in their sex lives. All sex has risks and we all make choices. I will always rely on facts to make choices, rather than anecdotal evidence, including comments on threads. I would be worried abt providing false confidence rather than informed consent.
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Well said. Making a personal choice is one thing. Providing comments and information to others that is contradictory to sound medical science is unacceptable.
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- I have no idea what happened with her. She went to the doctor and that half ass explaination was all she got. Nothing about what caused it or how to avoid it. Just “it happens and this is the only way to treat it”. No meds, just a vaginal douche daily for a week and patience. If it had been an UTI or STD she would have gotten that info for sure.