Thank you Colt. Yes, you’re right, Australian Doctors & Urologists can not prescribe any type of testosterone, unless you are below what they deem as deficient in testosterone. I’m turning 64 this year and based on my blood results on testosterone, and what they seem as deficient, honestly, you would be in your 80’s to 90’s. I think that is woeful and like I said, you would be close to death.
I would be gambling on having testosterone as a cream being shipped as Australian Customs scan everything that comes in to the country. Sometimes they open packages up to inspect, and sometimes not. Idk what they would do if they saw it was testosterone cream? I’ve had packages come to me with Australian Customs tape over it and a note that it was inspected.
I’m sure you’re exercising caution, but just in case you missed this part: Zinc in too high a concentration (most sources give the upper tolerable concentration at 25mg/d) would be harmful. It also interferes with antibiotics, so in case you ever need any, be sure to stop taking your zinc supplements while taking them.
When a government dictates what a citizen can do to maintain their own health using medications proven to provide benefits, it no longer cares about its citizens. They care about power and control. When people sacrifice liberty for safety they end up with neither. Shame on Australian officials for denying human beings the opportunity to live a full, complete, healthy life.
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Allow me to offer a retort: Unrestrained capitalism will not care about the efficacy of any one treatment or drug, only about being paid. If there’s no regulation, the snake oil salesmen have a field day, and no company has any incentive to develop new drugs or treatments unless they would make them more money.
Think of the vasalgel situation; why would any company invest money in a cheap, reversable contraception for men when they can instead keep making money with hormonal birth control for women, despite the side effects.
Regulation works, in part, against snake oil, what works against medication being only developed when it costs more than currently available products … time will tell. Hopefully.
Not sure how your reply correlates with the subject of TRT? Are you suggesting free people should be prevented by their government from access to treatments known to be of benefit?
Also, if I recall correctly, you’re a man in your 30’s. I won’t be around to ask, but I wonder how you’ll feel when you’re older like me and Mr Cate and your government prevents you from accessing meds that can improve the quality of your life.
I read your reply as a general statement, not exclusively tied to TRT.
And I feel some regulation is in our best interest as populace. “Known to be effective”, in the absence of studies and tests conducted with no conföict of interest can be anything from a marketing claim to factual data.
What I want to say is that it’s a conundrum.
As for TRT in particular, I hope I will have access when needed, of course.
Don’t you feel the same for Mr Cate since he needs it now? You’ll never understand the impact until you experience it. Mr Cate needs help now but his government agencies refuse to acknowledge that.
Sure, he should have access as well.
Gonna suggest that a discussion that moves to governments and control etc. runs the risk of becoming very political and is definitely beyond the scope of this forum. I’d hate to see us get bogged down in ideological debates as so many other on line sites are. I’m sure We all hold strong opinions and are invested in them.
Let’s stay supportive and focussed on our common love, anal sex and the AO lifestyle.
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I hear you Colt. Australia was branded the “lucky country” for quite a while. Australia has been going down the slippery slope & I don’t like where it is going. You only have to have a look at the state of Victoria during the world wide Covid lockdowns, as it was the most brutal lockdown in the world. There were home invasions by the cops, even hitting a pregnant woman down during lockdown. I mean, when the every day citizen can’t afford to purchase a home, you know that particular society has broken down. That is what is happening right now in Australia in the housing sector.
And when I found out what the stance was here in Australia towards TRT, I was shocked and dumbfounded 
Only then did I connect the dots the Australian government system. Idk, somehow I think it is engineered that way. Like you have alerted to Colt, it is a basic right, to have testosterone when it needed.
We’ve had many “sensitive” discussions in this group including culture and religion as they relate to anal sex without incident or complaint, at least that I’m aware of.
I couldn’t believe Mr Cate is unable to seek testosterone replacement therapy outside of the Australian healthcare system.
From my perspective, this represents a significant denial of his rights, and no different from someone speaking out about a culture or religion that prohibits anal sex… something that has been discussed at length in this group from time to time.
It really makes me sad to think that someone in this group believes anyone or any institution should have the ability to PROBIBIT someone from seeking TRT, which is essential to an active sex life… something this group exists to support. If a complaint was made, I suspect it’s a younger person who hasn’t reached the age where he or she may need the treatment. Maybe they’re having a good time knowing Mr Cate is struggling with the many symptoms associated with low testosterone. That would make me even sadder.
Message loud and clear, I will never comment on the accessibility or legality of hormone replacement therapy again in this group.
Please don’t, @Colt1911 I found the exchange very interesting. And I felt @Canassman addressed both you and me, and probably myself a bit more, as I went off into the realm of political theory.
To reiterate, I didn’t want to say someone should be denied TRT, I just tend to take specifics and then talk in generalisations.
So yeah, I think some regulation is needed, but in this case, you’re 100% correct that it’s bad regulation and not the needed kind. Sorry this wasn’t clear.
How about we (or rather I 
) drop this particular subject, and the conversation goes on as before? I think it’s a valuable addition to the forum, and one seldomly discussed.
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@Canassman I like that these kind of discussions are possible on this forum. As long as we all act decent, I see no harm.
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As a woman who gets written off at the doctor’s office constantly… I’m sorry to see you men (Australians in particular) having to deal with this too. It sucks. But at least you’ve got actual data you can work with. They haven’t studied the female body enough to know jack shit, and women’s medicine is still largely in the Spanish Inquisition.
Y’all absolutely right when you say you’ve got to advocate for yourself and seek out alternatives and research like crazy, because the doctor won’t until you’re dying (if then).
And Colt - right on!
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I’m 64 too and have been using testosterone gel for about a year. It helps and I feel better overall, but is not a cure-all. My doctor knows nothing about it as I get it mail order from India (where there is a will, there is a way).
In 2022 my level was 240 and today it is 900. Lost weight, walking more, eating better, taking supplements, it all helps.
That’s awesome. I have pellets now but switching back to injections for more consistency. Helps sleep, mood, muscle, and libido.
Do you need a prescription for the testosterone gel @fairlynormal, and can post the URL where you get it if you don’t mind?
I’m still shocked that your country prevents you from accessing testosterone replacement therapy. They’re denying you the right to live life to its fullest. Does Australia prohibit women from seeking hormone replacement therapy? If so, they’re forcing women to experience the negative effects of menopause. I wish I could help you somehow.
